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#1 Ayer_Lotus

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:03 PM

Just now, I'm listening to beatport top 100 and there's only two Trance tracks! W&W and PVD. Both songs are 130bpm.

Then I go to Trance top 10 chart and wow...no songs are over 132 and most are 128 and 130. Even one of my all time fav Air for Life remix is just 128 bpm.

Actually I didn't check beatport for ages. Now all top trance tracks there are around 130 and some songs has no elements of typical trance.

An I'm from the country where EDM is not popular and tbh, I have never been to global dance festival and global clubs. So just wanna know todays any DJs still play 138bpm Trance Tracks?
Just curious :unsure:

Btw, I didn't mean slow bpm Trance is not good, I like some of them!

Edited by Ayer_Lotus, 02 August 2012 - 04:06 PM.


#2 Lethyx

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:17 PM

Because lower BPM's allow more variety and you can fit in more sounds between the kicks. And because most 138 BPM uplifting trance has become generic.

#3 Klaneeer

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:40 PM

yes

#4 Klaneeer

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:41 PM

tempo knobs should be blocked or limited at 128 bpm imo :)

#5 AnjunaCrasher

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:53 PM

138 is fine as long as u know what ur doing

Best tracks:

2005: Sunny Lax "P.U.M.A. (Original Mix)" & Above & Beyond vs. Andy Moor "Air For Life (Original Mix)"
2006: Nitrous Oxide "North Pole (Original Mix)" & Above & Beyond "Can't Sleep (Signum Remix)"
2007: Nitrous Oxide "Amnesia (Original Mix)" & Sunny Lax "Blue Bird (Original Mix)"
2008: Signalrunners "Meet Me In Montauk (Original Mix)" & Signalrunners & Julie Thompson "These Shoulders (Oliver Smith Remix)"
2009: Nitrous Oxide "Aurora (Original Mix)" & Sunny Lax "Misgrey (Original Mix)"

2010: Mat Zo "The Lost" & Mike Shiver & Aruna "Everywhere You Are (Duderstadt Vocal Mix)"
2011: Edu & Cramp "Human Turbines" (Beat Service Remix) & Andrew Bayer "From The Earth (Breakfast Remix)"
2012: Norin & Rad "Bloom" & Velvetine "The Great Divide (Soundprank Remix)"

2013: Purple Stories & Static Blue "Seoni (Falcon Remix)" / Gal Abutbul "Serenity"

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:03 PM

it should be impossible to turn your bpm under 130 bpm.
128 bpm feels like :sleep1:

Edited by Trancestorm, 02 August 2012 - 05:03 PM.

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#7 arkiamusic

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:32 PM

Focusing on BPM is like focusing on dick size. Stop this bullshit

#8 mathieutilli

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:43 PM

what happened to creativity ffs, people asking if a certain bpm is good or bad
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#9 Joel_

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:05 PM

there are plenty of 138 and 140 tracks being made currently. They're not as mainstream or easy to find as before, that's all.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:12 PM

Uplifting will go the way of Psytrance and retain a relatively small but hardcore following. The people that carry on making will do so out of love, and therefore the genre will get better.

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#11 Waza

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:13 PM

i just usually go with the feel of the track.

Mind you i'm just getting back into music from a year or two ago, and i've noticed the different style and slowed down tempo.

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#12 Marin Karačić

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 02:05 PM

For a few years trance was mostly produced in 132 to 135 bpm, some songs bouncing away at 138. Aly and Fila were always at 140. Armin made Status E.D at 136, but you could find a lot of Arty, Super8 & Tab tracks at 132, which is my favourite tempo to be honest, not as slow as 125-128, and not as fast as 136-138.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 02:16 PM

132 bpm. Golden mean

#14 erickUO

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:10 PM

there are plenty of 138 and 140 tracks being made currently. They're not as mainstream or easy to find as before, that's all.

This
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Afaik, John Askew, Bryan Kearney, Indecent Noise still plays up to 140++
You might wanna check this

Edited by erickUO, 03 August 2012 - 07:13 PM.


#15 Lethyx

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:13 PM

132-134 BPM ftw!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:26 AM

some melodies just don't work at slower speeds :)

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 06:49 AM

Uplifting will go the way of Psytrance and retain a relatively small but hardcore following. The people that carry on making will do so out of love, and therefore the genre will get better.

Yes.

Word.


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#18 Ayer_Lotus

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 08:56 AM

This
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Afaik, John Askew, Bryan Kearney, Indecent Noise still plays up to 140++
You might wanna check this


Thanks for the link!

some melodies just don't work at slower speeds :)


Agree :)

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 10:12 PM

getting fed up of bpm talk.

let your track decide the bpm. if it sounds better 140bpm, then fit it to that. Its just that vocals and trouse have taken over which naturally have a slower bpm and wont work at 140bpm. simple as that. comparing bpms is like comparing (sub) genres

p.s.

just had a look at the beatport trance top 100 chart and saw that 9 tracks in the top 32 (didnt look at the rest) are 138 or 140 bpm. Its just that we dont see too many that make it in the top 10.

Edited by Onlyme, 04 August 2012 - 10:33 PM.


#20 simonb

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:04 PM

Go with what your gut feeling is.

I don't go by what the charts dictate, but 19 tracks in the top 100 Trance Beatport list are 137bpm and above. Seems like a world record for this year so far which is a bonus.

#21 Lethyx

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:08 PM

Uplifting will go the way of Psytrance and retain a relatively small but hardcore following. The people that carry on making will do so out of love, and therefore the genre will get better.

Yes.

Word.


Whatever happened to Hard Trance? Did it also go underground?

#22 digiskunk

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:29 AM

To answer OP's question: ° no, are you kidding me? What do you think this is, house music?

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:40 AM

i just made a kickass track at 138, to hell with anyone who thinks it's uncool :)

#24 Bluffmunkey

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:43 AM

Whatever happened to Hard Trance? Did it also go underground?



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#25 pars

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

Uplifting will go the way of Psytrance and retain a relatively small but hardcore following. The people that carry on making will do so out of love, and therefore the genre will get better.


This.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:26 PM

Uplifting will go the way of Psytrance and retain a relatively small but hardcore following. The people that carry on making will do so out of love, and therefore the genre will get better.

Well, the truth does actually hurt. Maybe there could actually be more good producers in the uplifting genre instead of having most of the material in it be half-assed-effort tracks from novice producers who actually end up getting signed to mediocre indie labels. Personally, labels have to be pickier about what they sign.




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