[Allan Morrow]

Thought I would start a thread where people could share there favourite kicks that they have found or processed themselves and what style they would be good for whether it be arty style, aly and fila style, mat zo or punchy discover style.

[Klaneeer]

VES2 Bassdrum 68 (SHM kick)

and

VES2 Bassdrum 65 (Alesso and Avicii kick)

but ofc i can never process it to sounding as good as in their tracks

[Pineda]

Klaneeer, on 02 February 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

but ofc i can never process it to sounding as good as in their tracks

Thats probably because of mastering...

[FarKeen]

This post has been edited by FarKeen: 03 February 2012 - 12:01 AM

[Audioholic]

Mastering surly does or can affect it, anyhow I think its more about how you process everything around your kick than processing the kick itself.

Dont have a favourite kick

And klaneer how the F do you spot those kicks, even if Id heard something similar, I sure as hell wouldnt be able to find it back in all those vengeance lib's

[Klaneeer]

Audioholic, on 03 February 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Mastering surly does or can affect it, anyhow I think its more about how you process everything around your kick than processing the kick itself.

Dont have a favourite kick

And klaneer how the F do you spot those kicks, even if Id heard something similar, I sure as hell wouldnt be able to find it back in all those vengeance lib's

i know 4328239x more e.g. i was just searching through Vengeance Minimal House and haha i realised that im pretty strange if u have that pack just open FX Sounds and haha :

VMH1 FX Sounds 001 - noise from total beginning from Andy Duguid - Dont Belong oh and VMH1 FX Sounds 115 from 0:30 of this track even though i didnt listen this for 3 years, this is °ed up isn't it ?

[Benne Z]

Klaneeer, on 03 February 2012 - 12:54 AM, said:

i know 4328239x more e.g. i was just searching through Vengeance Minimal House and haha i realised that im pretty strange if u have that pack just open FX Sounds and haha :

VMH1 FX Sounds 001 - noise from total beginning from Andy Duguid - Dont Belong oh and VMH1 FX Sounds 115 from 0:30 of this track even though i didnt listen this for 3 years, this is °ed up isn't it ?

Sir? There are 4 toothpicks left in the box.



I'm with Audioholic though. Most of the kick seems to be defined by what (isn't) around it.

That said, take an ordinary kick. Run it through a plate reverb with the room size turned up to maximum, the early reflections turned up all the way, the early reflection type set to random, and the decay time turned all the way down. Pure industrial noise!

Definitely not appropriate for trance though.

This post has been edited by Benne Z: 03 February 2012 - 03:29 AM

[patrickjjh]

Klaneeer, on 02 February 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

VES2 Bassdrum 68 (SHM kick)

and

VES2 Bassdrum 65 (Alesso and Avicii kick)

but ofc i can never process it to sounding as good as in their tracks

Lol that SHM kick sounds terrible

[Nikola Radosevic]

patrickjjh, on 03 February 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

Lol that SHM kick sounds terrible

i think that kick is sampled from miami 2 ibiza. It has a nice low end, but also that ugly sound on top, cause of that synth playing in the same time as the kick in that track(there's no clean kick sample in that track).

Anyway I think you can get a nice kick out of it. Just highcut it around 500-600hz and layer it with some nice click on top.

[Klaneeer]

Nikola Radosevic, on 03 February 2012 - 07:06 AM, said:

i think that kick is sampled from miami 2 ibiza. It has a nice low end, but also that ugly sound on top, cause of that synth playing in the same time as the kick in that track(there's no clean kick sample in that track).

Anyway I think you can get a nice kick out of it. Just highcut it around 500-600hz and layer it with some nice click on top.

check out ves2 bassdrum 88, and VES2 Kitt -> Progressive Kit - > VES2 Progressive Kit Bassdrum

i dont think they sampled it from shm

[Klaneeer]

and i think lots of anjunadeepers use Vengeance Minimal House -> VMH1 Bassdrums 033 its a very nice kick imo

and i wonder - check VMH1 Bassdrums 070 or VMH1 Bassdrums 167 and how the hell schossow processed it to sounding like this

This post has been edited by Klaneeer: 03 February 2012 - 11:33 AM

[Bluffmunkey]

This is really a pointless question imo.


You could have a kick that sounds superb in one track that sounds rubbish in another.


Unless you're making the same track over and over again that is.

[Klaneeer]

Bluffmunkey, on 03 February 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

This is really a pointless question imo.


You could have a kick that sounds superb in one track that sounds rubbish in another.


Unless you're making the same track over and over again that is.

not true, kick is important part for someone signature style, take cosmic gate as an example, they have always small varation of the same kick and nic chagall in his solo work also use almost always one kick ( both of them u can find in VEH3 Kicks ) SHM has signature kick, kyau and albert in tracks from 2009-11,

and for everyone, you can sample 2 nice kicks from this tracks

schossow, 0:26 s perfectly clean, you can even sample the clap

and

beginning

im a kick fanboy, as its my favourite part of music

This post has been edited by Klaneeer: 03 February 2012 - 11:55 AM

[Audioholic]

Klaneeer, on 03 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

not true, kick is important part for someone signature style, take cosmic gate as an example, they have always small varation of the same kick and nic chagall in his solo work also use almost always one kick ( both of them u can find in VEH3 Kicks ) SHM has signature kick, kyau and albert in tracks from 2009-11,

and for everyone, you can sample 2 nice kicks from this tracks

Dont know much about kyau n albert, nor CG as they are now (listened to alot of their older stuff (firewire for example )
Anyhow. SHM sounds quite the same to me with every track they produce, signature style mainly comes from using the same sounds etc. I guess if theyd go for a completely different kick they'd have to change their tracks according to that kick as well.

With that said Bluffmunkey has a point, and since vec librarys mainly are sample rips from released tracks it would make no sense at all to sample a good sounding kick from a track yourself. I bet you will end up the same way as using some vec kick, wondering why it sounds good in the track you ripped it from, but sounding nothing like it in your own track.

This post has been edited by Audioholic: 03 February 2012 - 12:09 PM

[Klaneeer]

Audioholic, on 03 February 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

Dont know much about kyau n albert, nor CG as they are now (listened to alot of their older stuff (firewire for example )
Anyhow. SHM sounds quite the same to me with every track they produce, signature style mainly comes from using the same sounds etc. I guess if theyd go for a completely different kick they'd have to change their tracks according to that kick as well.

With that said Bluffmunkey has a point, and since vec librarys mainly are sample rips from released tracks it would make no sense at all to sample a good sounding kick from a track yourself. I bet you will end up the same way as using some vec kick, wondering why it sounds good in the track you ripped it from, but sounding nothing like it in your own track.

ripped kicks never fit in my tracks, dont know how for others, tbh i barely can find kicks that fits and its °ing annoying, its quite hard. i respect arty cause he has always different kicks and they always fit so °ing well

[Steve Jackson]

i'm pretty sure arty makes his kicks with a synthesizer. you can tell since the sub bass is always either the root note or on the fifth of the key. you can make them yourself using sylenth1.

[meatpopsicle]

I dont like sampling kicks from songs because most of them are never clean or the ones that are I dont really like.

In the Progresia & Nifra song and there's a ring at like 270-300hz that I dont like. Sure i can eq and edit the waveform as well, but its a pain. I have this collection of kicks that I spent longgggg hours to crop and use wave editors to redraw, but honestly i never use them. I'd rather just start from a samplebank.

[Stu_Milner]

This is a good thread, can anyone identify what Kicks Sied Van riel has used in the clip below? He has said in the comments he uses mutekki samples but I haven't got a clue which ones. Also klaneer are u able to to tell us which kicks in VEH3 cosmic gate have been using recently?

This post has been edited by Stu_Milner: 09 February 2012 - 04:44 PM

[SamplePlasma]

Hi! maybe a little bit out of topic...

can u advise some good Fx sample packs... have some vengeance but there are not good for me



Thanks!)

[Andrewjoo7]

FAVORITE KICK

[andyvanhall]

Andrewjoo7, on 07 March 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

FAVORITE KICK

+1

[patrickjjh]

Andrewjoo7, on 07 March 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

FAVORITE KICK

Amazing just sampled it now