armin does produce. Benno helps him out.
How good a producer/DJ is Armin for all you haters outthere ... Discuss
#32
Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:08 AM
Only in recent years. Armins earlier (trance) productions were all fully made by him. Ive read it in his book! 
#33
Posted 07 September 2010 - 02:55 AM
Adam Ellis, on 07 September 2010 - 01:08 AM, said:
Only in recent years. Armins earlier (trance) productions were all fully made by him. Ive read it in his book!
agreed
#34
Posted 07 September 2010 - 05:58 AM
dj_phi, on 07 September 2010 - 12:38 AM, said:
armin does produce. Benno helps him out.
As long as he credits benno on the tracks i cant se the problem ...
#35
Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:29 AM
I give Armin 11 hearts (on the heart-scale) for his productions. Maybe 17 for his DJ'ing skills.
This post has been edited by Kris_Stane: 07 September 2010 - 09:29 AM
#36
Posted 07 September 2010 - 05:22 PM
Ok I just saw him live two days ago.
I was inebriated.
I still thought it was horrible and I tried my best to give in to the hype of OHHH MY #1 DJ!!!
He played typical saw wave destruction trance...the stuff I liked when I first started listening to trance...
I was completely unimpressed by his set. But, when it comes to his productions, they aren't terrible, but I certainly don't think they are special in any way.
I was inebriated.
I still thought it was horrible and I tried my best to give in to the hype of OHHH MY #1 DJ!!!
He played typical saw wave destruction trance...the stuff I liked when I first started listening to trance...
I was completely unimpressed by his set. But, when it comes to his productions, they aren't terrible, but I certainly don't think they are special in any way.
#37
Posted 07 September 2010 - 06:05 PM
He is and always shall be a great dj. He dictates how good he is by the quality and type of trance around in any era. For instance he wasnt quite as good when tech-trance dominated around 2006-2007. Then just after when he overdosed on playing the vocal proglifting stuff. Just now for me hes as good as hes ever been. Some of his live sets in the last few months have made a mockery of everyone else apart from maybe JOOF and the likes of Ferry Tayle. But to be at the top and still play the music he does is quite something.
As for productions he has been hit or miss since his early days. The new album follows that trend but it is by far in a way better than Imagine ever was. He makes no secret him and Benno are great friends and Benno masters all the tracks and works alongside Armin as Armin says himself "its more fun with 2 people" but as shown by the videos showing how the ideas for the new album came about its clear the ideas for all of the tracks came solely from Armin himself.
The one thing that annoys me is folk seem to like to take pot shots at him given a chance. And for the life of me I cant quite understand why. ITs not his fault he has fanboys now and his popularity has skyrocketed in the commercial market. But he hasnt changed his sound to accommodate it that much ala Tiesto or what PVD did. Sure he plays some commercial stuff at some gigs but he will always play trance as again hes admitted himself.
As for productions he has been hit or miss since his early days. The new album follows that trend but it is by far in a way better than Imagine ever was. He makes no secret him and Benno are great friends and Benno masters all the tracks and works alongside Armin as Armin says himself "its more fun with 2 people" but as shown by the videos showing how the ideas for the new album came about its clear the ideas for all of the tracks came solely from Armin himself.
The one thing that annoys me is folk seem to like to take pot shots at him given a chance. And for the life of me I cant quite understand why. ITs not his fault he has fanboys now and his popularity has skyrocketed in the commercial market. But he hasnt changed his sound to accommodate it that much ala Tiesto or what PVD did. Sure he plays some commercial stuff at some gigs but he will always play trance as again hes admitted himself.
This post has been edited by gizzymcg: 07 September 2010 - 06:05 PM
#38
Posted 07 September 2010 - 06:21 PM
BraegerAshtonMoore, on 07 September 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:
saw wave destruction trance.
??
like the description, but haven't got a clue what it means?
#39
Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:25 PM
philipandtigger, on 07 September 2010 - 06:21 PM, said:
??
like the description, but haven't got a clue what it means?
like the description, but haven't got a clue what it means?
All the tracks he played were just gated saw wave crap. if you don't produce you might not know what this means.
In other words all of the tracks he played were "in your face" trance. very boring after a while.
#40
Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:31 PM
BraegerAshtonMoore, on 07 September 2010 - 07:25 PM, said:
All the tracks he played were just gated saw wave crap. if you don't produce you might not know what this means.
In other words all of the tracks he played were "in your face" trance. very boring after a while.
In other words all of the tracks he played were "in your face" trance. very boring after a while.
thanks for that, but i don't produce and still not sure what you mean!
nevermind
#41
Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:56 PM
Armin got us (me and my gf) into Trance
Love the man for his passionate dedication
His parties and DJ skills are amazing.
I'm not a blind fan of all his productions, but he has some gems in there.
Completely in love with one specific track on his new release Mirage.
Look up "I dont own you *2010 Mirage*" on Youtube. It's an amazing deep trance track.
Going to the album presentation Thursday here in Belgium...
Love the man for his passionate dedication
His parties and DJ skills are amazing.
I'm not a blind fan of all his productions, but he has some gems in there.
Completely in love with one specific track on his new release Mirage.
Look up "I dont own you *2010 Mirage*" on Youtube. It's an amazing deep trance track.
Going to the album presentation Thursday here in Belgium...
#42
Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:13 PM
Wow! I really like "I don't own you". Thanks for the heads up, Wolfie!
#43
Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:57 PM
Cant really beat a bit armin, does what a lot of the other big trance jocks do, but much better imo.
Production wise, hes a bit meh for me but I cant say anything particuarly offends me.
Ive seen him on countless occasions and hes always absolutely levelled the place.
Production wise, hes a bit meh for me but I cant say anything particuarly offends me.
Ive seen him on countless occasions and hes always absolutely levelled the place.
#44
Posted 08 September 2010 - 12:11 AM
Never seen him live, but heard his sets a lot and they sound awesome, so I guess he's pretty awesome!
On the producing side, I've gotta admit I like his earlier stuff like Touch Me, and I'm even partial to a bit of Broken Tonight at the right moment...still ain't got nothing on Oceanlab's stuff if I'm being honest, and there are so many other producers who I think have made soooooo much better music than him, but c'est la vie and all
On the producing side, I've gotta admit I like his earlier stuff like Touch Me, and I'm even partial to a bit of Broken Tonight at the right moment...still ain't got nothing on Oceanlab's stuff if I'm being honest, and there are so many other producers who I think have made soooooo much better music than him, but c'est la vie and all
#45
Posted 11 September 2010 - 04:29 PM
Nowadays, average.
He makes the same electroish stuff many others do.
He has made some nice tunes in the 2 last years, but thats not that many, 3-4 tunes =P
Tuvan is nice, the new tune from there is meh if I remember correctly =P
His mixing is probably pretty nice, but now his sets probably has more of that new "trance" then TATW has =P
So I voted 3.
He makes the same electroish stuff many others do.
He has made some nice tunes in the 2 last years, but thats not that many, 3-4 tunes =P
Tuvan is nice, the new tune from there is meh if I remember correctly =P
His mixing is probably pretty nice, but now his sets probably has more of that new "trance" then TATW has =P
So I voted 3.
#46
Posted 13 September 2010 - 04:55 PM
would love to hear paavo's opinion on this, seeing as he's regularly browsing the forums these days 
#47
Posted 14 September 2010 - 01:21 AM
Adam Ellis, on 06 September 2010 - 08:01 PM, said:
How can people say Armin is a crap producer when he has made stunning tunes
Blue Fear
Serenity
Communications
Sky Falls Down (Remix)
Sound Of Goodbye
Exhale
ect ect
Blue Fear
Serenity
Communications
Sky Falls Down (Remix)
Sound Of Goodbye
Exhale
ect ect
Haiz, those were the good ol days indeed. Armin was the one who got me into trance too. I will throw in burned with desire, sail, zocalo. His Imagine album, although very vocal, was quality too.
Then he started to produce crap like broken tonight and introduce more techy basslines to his stuff. Mirage is so poppy and techy. Its like he has lost his focus. I respect his enthusiasm and work for trance but he has lost his sound
#48
Posted 14 September 2010 - 03:20 AM
Clouded_Leopard, on 13 September 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:
would love to hear paavo's opinion on this, seeing as he's regularly browsing the forums these days
I doubt you'll get one and I don't think it's really Paavo. It's probably one of the mods.
This post has been edited by Progrez: 14 September 2010 - 03:21 AM
#50
Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:29 PM
Progrez, on 14 September 2010 - 03:20 AM, said:
I doubt you'll get one and I don't think it's really Paavo. It's probably one of the mods.
I think it's the real Paavo.
#51
Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:18 AM
gizzymcg, on 07 September 2010 - 06:05 PM, said:
For instance he wasnt quite as good when tech-trance dominated around 2006-2007.
Interesting - For all the times I've seen Armin, I've had to say he played his best when he played harder.
#52
Posted 02 October 2010 - 05:30 PM
As a live DJ, Armin is one of the best on the planet. He's definately reached the rank of master jedi. Contrary to the opinion of most members here, I like most of his releases. Yeah some of his tracks from Mirage aren't that good but tracks like 'these silent hearts f/t BT' & 'take a moment' are great. As far as his a state of trance mix cd every year, they are decent but not his strength. Above & Beyond thrive in the mix cd/yearly Anjunabeats compilation with volume three being the best imo.
#54
Posted 08 October 2010 - 08:11 PM
Just wanted to add my opinions and thoughts after reading some posts in here
First off Above & Beyond have been/still are my favorite producers. I feel that in terms of musical technicality/theory their background is unmatched compared to other top producers of the day.
That said, Armin's remixes/live sets/mashups are out of this world. I'm not too thrilled about his productions, as they don't quite "hit the spot" for me as A&B does; HOWEVER, I have to say that he is definitely ranks up there in terms of being the most passionate about what he does. If you look at Armin's youtube channel, he explains his ideas, inspirations, goals, and the stories behind specific tracks of his new Mirage album. Honestly, my first listen through the album, I wasn't impressed either, liking only maybe two or three tracks. After watching those videos though, I thoroughly enjoyed the tracks because I could appreciate the passion behind them.
As for the poster who claimed that this was the first album that he has produced himself, I'm not too sure, as I won't claim that I'm knowledgeable behind his earlier productions. However, Armin mentioned in his videos that he was going for a different sound in many tracks, which makes sense to me as it is normal for musicians to evolve and move in a totally different direction throughout their careers (ex. Linkin Park).
I also think accusing him of being a sell-out is a bit harsh; it's not like he's David Guetta or anything
Sidenote: completely agree with you mate, excellent points!
First off Above & Beyond have been/still are my favorite producers. I feel that in terms of musical technicality/theory their background is unmatched compared to other top producers of the day.
That said, Armin's remixes/live sets/mashups are out of this world. I'm not too thrilled about his productions, as they don't quite "hit the spot" for me as A&B does; HOWEVER, I have to say that he is definitely ranks up there in terms of being the most passionate about what he does. If you look at Armin's youtube channel, he explains his ideas, inspirations, goals, and the stories behind specific tracks of his new Mirage album. Honestly, my first listen through the album, I wasn't impressed either, liking only maybe two or three tracks. After watching those videos though, I thoroughly enjoyed the tracks because I could appreciate the passion behind them.
As for the poster who claimed that this was the first album that he has produced himself, I'm not too sure, as I won't claim that I'm knowledgeable behind his earlier productions. However, Armin mentioned in his videos that he was going for a different sound in many tracks, which makes sense to me as it is normal for musicians to evolve and move in a totally different direction throughout their careers (ex. Linkin Park).
I also think accusing him of being a sell-out is a bit harsh; it's not like he's David Guetta or anything
gizzymcg, on 07 September 2010 - 06:05 PM, said:
He is and always shall be a great dj. He dictates how good he is by the quality and type of trance around in any era. For instance he wasnt quite as good when tech-trance dominated around 2006-2007. Then just after when he overdosed on playing the vocal proglifting stuff. Just now for me hes as good as hes ever been. Some of his live sets in the last few months have made a mockery of everyone else apart from maybe JOOF and the likes of Ferry Tayle. But to be at the top and still play the music he does is quite something.
As for productions he has been hit or miss since his early days. The new album follows that trend but it is by far in a way better than Imagine ever was. He makes no secret him and Benno are great friends and Benno masters all the tracks and works alongside Armin as Armin says himself "its more fun with 2 people" but as shown by the videos showing how the ideas for the new album came about its clear the ideas for all of the tracks came solely from Armin himself.
The one thing that annoys me is folk seem to like to take pot shots at him given a chance. And for the life of me I cant quite understand why. ITs not his fault he has fanboys now and his popularity has skyrocketed in the commercial market. But he hasnt changed his sound to accommodate it that much ala Tiesto or what PVD did. Sure he plays some commercial stuff at some gigs but he will always play trance as again hes admitted himself.
As for productions he has been hit or miss since his early days. The new album follows that trend but it is by far in a way better than Imagine ever was. He makes no secret him and Benno are great friends and Benno masters all the tracks and works alongside Armin as Armin says himself "its more fun with 2 people" but as shown by the videos showing how the ideas for the new album came about its clear the ideas for all of the tracks came solely from Armin himself.
The one thing that annoys me is folk seem to like to take pot shots at him given a chance. And for the life of me I cant quite understand why. ITs not his fault he has fanboys now and his popularity has skyrocketed in the commercial market. But he hasnt changed his sound to accommodate it that much ala Tiesto or what PVD did. Sure he plays some commercial stuff at some gigs but he will always play trance as again hes admitted himself.
Sidenote: completely agree with you mate, excellent points!
This post has been edited by wowwitsgau: 08 October 2010 - 08:14 PM
#55
Posted 09 October 2010 - 08:41 AM
IMO one of hes sets, wish I was there to experience it!
Armin Van Buuren b2b Ferry Corsten Live @ Godskitchen (03-16-2003)
01. DJ Cor Fijneman feat. Jan Johnston - Venus (DJ Tiesto Remix)
02. Solarstone - Solarcoaster (Midway Remix)
03. Aly & Fila - Eyes Of Horus (Ronski Speed Remix)
04. Matti Laamanen - Flakes
05. 3 Fingers - Frozen Feburary (Flake mix)
06. Push - Universal Nation (2003 Remix)
07. Armin van Buuren - Sunburn
08. Eon - Pocket Damage
09. Ronald van Gelderen aka Kid Vicious - Proceed
10. Umek - Gatex vs. Speedy J - Kreck (Armin van Buuren Rework)
11. Ferry Corsten - Punk
12. Queen vs. Vanguard - Flash
13. GTR - Mistral
14. Airwave vs. Rising Star - Sunspot (DCML Remix)
15. System F vs. Armin van Buuren - Exhale
Armin Van Buuren b2b Ferry Corsten Live @ Godskitchen (03-16-2003)
01. DJ Cor Fijneman feat. Jan Johnston - Venus (DJ Tiesto Remix)
02. Solarstone - Solarcoaster (Midway Remix)
03. Aly & Fila - Eyes Of Horus (Ronski Speed Remix)
04. Matti Laamanen - Flakes
05. 3 Fingers - Frozen Feburary (Flake mix)
06. Push - Universal Nation (2003 Remix)
07. Armin van Buuren - Sunburn
08. Eon - Pocket Damage
09. Ronald van Gelderen aka Kid Vicious - Proceed
10. Umek - Gatex vs. Speedy J - Kreck (Armin van Buuren Rework)
11. Ferry Corsten - Punk
12. Queen vs. Vanguard - Flash
13. GTR - Mistral
14. Airwave vs. Rising Star - Sunspot (DCML Remix)
15. System F vs. Armin van Buuren - Exhale
This post has been edited by Projectwez: 09 October 2010 - 08:42 AM
#56
Posted 09 October 2010 - 12:06 PM
Projectwez, on 09 October 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:
IMO one of hes sets, wish I was there to experience it!
Armin Van Buuren b2b Ferry Corsten Live @ Godskitchen (03-16-2003)
01. DJ Cor Fijneman feat. Jan Johnston - Venus (DJ Tiesto Remix)
02. Solarstone - Solarcoaster (Midway Remix)
03. Aly & Fila - Eyes Of Horus (Ronski Speed Remix)
04. Matti Laamanen - Flakes
05. 3 Fingers - Frozen Feburary (Flake mix)
06. Push - Universal Nation (2003 Remix)
07. Armin van Buuren - Sunburn
08. Eon - Pocket Damage
09. Ronald van Gelderen aka Kid Vicious - Proceed
10. Umek - Gatex vs. Speedy J - Kreck (Armin van Buuren Rework)
11. Ferry Corsten - Punk
12. Queen vs. Vanguard - Flash
13. GTR - Mistral
14. Airwave vs. Rising Star - Sunspot (DCML Remix)
15. System F vs. Armin van Buuren - Exhale
Armin Van Buuren b2b Ferry Corsten Live @ Godskitchen (03-16-2003)
01. DJ Cor Fijneman feat. Jan Johnston - Venus (DJ Tiesto Remix)
02. Solarstone - Solarcoaster (Midway Remix)
03. Aly & Fila - Eyes Of Horus (Ronski Speed Remix)
04. Matti Laamanen - Flakes
05. 3 Fingers - Frozen Feburary (Flake mix)
06. Push - Universal Nation (2003 Remix)
07. Armin van Buuren - Sunburn
08. Eon - Pocket Damage
09. Ronald van Gelderen aka Kid Vicious - Proceed
10. Umek - Gatex vs. Speedy J - Kreck (Armin van Buuren Rework)
11. Ferry Corsten - Punk
12. Queen vs. Vanguard - Flash
13. GTR - Mistral
14. Airwave vs. Rising Star - Sunspot (DCML Remix)
15. System F vs. Armin van Buuren - Exhale
Looks a good mix - will have to check out some of those tunes which haven't heard. Hadn't realised Armin had done a collab with Ferry before in that final track! Was thinking Minack was their first collab.
#57
Posted 09 October 2010 - 12:12 PM
dj_phi, on 07 September 2010 - 12:38 AM, said:
armin does produce. Benno helps him out.
Adam Ellis, on 07 September 2010 - 01:08 AM, said:
Only in recent years. Armins earlier (trance) productions were all fully made by him. Ive read it in his book!
Yeah I saw somewhere that Benno from Rank 1 only started to work with Armin on the Imagine album and afterwards although not on the Mirage album. Imagine album was great! Liked Armin's early tunes too - still quite alot I haven't heard. Will have to check out his 76 & Shivers albums.
