hi all!!
have been producing music for some time and my attention now is to achieve that quality...i think proper reverb makes a huge difference..but what if the proper way to go about it?? do i give reverb to each channel one by one or give it to the final mix minus the kick..
will appreciate ideas..
thanks
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when to give reverb while making a track? give it to the final mix or each audio track?
#2
Posted 15 August 2010 - 02:41 PM
You give it to each audio track as each instrument requires different amounts of reverb. Just dont overdo it.
#3
Posted 15 August 2010 - 02:52 PM
Yeah, I would absolutely advice you not to add reverb to the entire mix. It would get really muddy, and seeing as far from every element in the mix needs reverb, you should be quite restrictive when it comes to handing it out to individual channels as well. Still, it's not all that difficult to figure out when you should add some of it - reverb is really one of those effects you hear is missing in a sound. Also, delay and reverb has a tendency to accompany each other.
This post has been edited by AzurCloud: 15 August 2010 - 03:00 PM
#5
Posted 15 August 2010 - 05:13 PM
i think u should use the sends - and put there one reverb as main!
i would also recomment this for delay!
hmm never add a reverb to the master! - 7skies had written something to this theme!
7Skies FAQ
i would also recomment this for delay!
hmm never add a reverb to the master! - 7skies had written something to this theme!
7Skies FAQ
#6
Posted 15 August 2010 - 06:33 PM
I once put a reverb on the master, and used it as a transition effect in combination with a bitcrusher or some other FX. I had the wet value at zero, but then i would increase it to a certain value while also increasing the other master FX (and sometimes decreasing the dry value) during a transition.
In other words, unless you plan on trying to make an interesting transition effect with it, putting a reverb on master is definitely a no.
I normally have 1 reverb in the send channel, and most of my synths and such are routed to that, but for things that i just gotta have more verb to (like a breakdown pad or something, or an element that needs a greater verb decay or something), it has its own reverb. But that's about it.
Reverb can kill your mix with unnecessary muddiness if not used effectively, but it can also give your track the needed glue and filler to make the track much more cohesive.
In other words, unless you plan on trying to make an interesting transition effect with it, putting a reverb on master is definitely a no.
I normally have 1 reverb in the send channel, and most of my synths and such are routed to that, but for things that i just gotta have more verb to (like a breakdown pad or something, or an element that needs a greater verb decay or something), it has its own reverb. But that's about it.
Reverb can kill your mix with unnecessary muddiness if not used effectively, but it can also give your track the needed glue and filler to make the track much more cohesive.
#7
Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:41 AM
Trancestorm, on 15 August 2010 - 05:13 PM, said:
i think u should use the sends - and put there one reverb as main!
i would also recomment this for delay!
hmm never add a reverb to the master! - 7skies had written something to this theme!
<a href="http://www.anjunabeats.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39864" target="_blank">7Skies FAQ</a>
i would also recomment this for delay!
hmm never add a reverb to the master! - 7skies had written something to this theme!
<a href="http://www.anjunabeats.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39864" target="_blank">7Skies FAQ</a>
he also said that you should have the same ammount of reverb for instruments and samples.
#8
Posted 03 September 2010 - 09:34 AM
i use 3 reverbs in my track one short(for drums) and one long reverb(for instruments - to give it more timbre) and sometimes on more for the FX - Sweeps and cymbal crashes!
the reverbs are placed as sends in the channel view!
the reverbs have the same settings only the decay is extented! if u use more than one reverbs the track could soundes muddy!
also really important is to level it really with care, because adding reverbs increases the muddyness still - but on the other side u get warmth in the Track with reverbs!
for the way u do this placing its important to know which daw u using?!
its a hard question, when u should add a reverb! i do it in the arrangement before building up the track! other ppl do it after arranging it complete or for example Thorsten Fassbender in the mastering section! ("Waves - The Trance Experience")
the best way is to try which is working for u the best!
*Edit*
... if u are satified with a hihat in dry u dont need to add reverb to it! but sometimes it adds some ambients to the track!
u should/could add it to the all audio tracks/channels! but with do it with care leveling!
the reverbs are placed as sends in the channel view!
the reverbs have the same settings only the decay is extented! if u use more than one reverbs the track could soundes muddy!
also really important is to level it really with care, because adding reverbs increases the muddyness still - but on the other side u get warmth in the Track with reverbs!
for the way u do this placing its important to know which daw u using?!
its a hard question, when u should add a reverb! i do it in the arrangement before building up the track! other ppl do it after arranging it complete or for example Thorsten Fassbender in the mastering section! ("Waves - The Trance Experience")
the best way is to try which is working for u the best!
*Edit*
... if u are satified with a hihat in dry u dont need to add reverb to it! but sometimes it adds some ambients to the track!
u should/could add it to the all audio tracks/channels! but with do it with care leveling!
This post has been edited by Trancestorm: 03 September 2010 - 09:40 AM
#9
Posted 03 September 2010 - 06:02 PM
Are you use this same reverb on a few instruments (on lead, pluck and pad) ??? Is it good???
#10
Posted 03 September 2010 - 11:38 PM
If you want a track to sound as cohesive and natural as possible, it's really best to use one reverb as a send effect for each project. It might be necessary to use more than one reverb instance for routing reasons (for example, when I have a reverberated kick drum that I want to sidechain other sounds to, I wouldn't send it to the general (sidechained) reverb bus because it would then sidechain to itself). I use reverb as the VERY LAST effect before the master bus, since that really helps it serve as the "glue" that holds a track together.
Though some people might want to EQ their reverb to, for example, get rid of bass in the reverb, it's really best to EQ individual sounds at the insert level so that the reverb sounds more natural, and NOT to EQ the reverb. Remember, the reverb isn't going to add frequencies that aren't already present in the original signal, and if you cut/boost frequencies on the reverb you run the risk of making the track's atmosphere sound either weak or unnatural, respectively.
Though some people might want to EQ their reverb to, for example, get rid of bass in the reverb, it's really best to EQ individual sounds at the insert level so that the reverb sounds more natural, and NOT to EQ the reverb. Remember, the reverb isn't going to add frequencies that aren't already present in the original signal, and if you cut/boost frequencies on the reverb you run the risk of making the track's atmosphere sound either weak or unnatural, respectively.
#11
Posted 06 September 2010 - 02:34 PM
Each track/whatever might need different type/amount of reverb. Applying reverb to the whole mix (depending on its complexity) might sound too muddy and make the bass frequencies bleed all over each other, which is probably not what you want.
I find that the opportunity to use reverb usually presents itself, so you don't really have to look for it. Some instruments, like white noise, crash hits, or generally anything with a lot of fuzzy high end is susceptible to a reasonable amount of reverb to make it ring out beyond the sample boundary.
If you have hats that persist throughout the song, you might want to add some subtle reverb to avoid having them sound like tiny nails being beaten into the listener's skull.
I find that the opportunity to use reverb usually presents itself, so you don't really have to look for it. Some instruments, like white noise, crash hits, or generally anything with a lot of fuzzy high end is susceptible to a reasonable amount of reverb to make it ring out beyond the sample boundary.
If you have hats that persist throughout the song, you might want to add some subtle reverb to avoid having them sound like tiny nails being beaten into the listener's skull.
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